Er dette en drivpatron tel en torpedo?
KM merket, og med gjenger på innersiden av hylsen...!
Torpedohylse?
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I utseende ligner den litt på varmepatron til varmeapparatet i G7a, men den har kun ett tennstempel. Kanskje for en eldre torpedo (G7v el.)? Vanskelig å si noe uten mål... (diameter og lengde). Får inntrykk av at den er ganske stor, så kardus til torpedokanon er jo en annen mulighet, selv om den ikke ligner så mye på de jeg har sett.
Kan jo være til noe helt annet enn torpedo.
Kan jo være til noe helt annet enn torpedo.
Skjønner problemet! Har dessverre ikke hylsen for hånden... 
Bildene er faktisk i fra 2004, og da tenkte jeg ikke på å legge tomstokk ved siden av..! Men størrelsen minte nok litt i 3,7 cm calibret, lengden var ikke noe særlig heller...Ca rundt 20 cm!
Bildene er faktisk i fra 2004, og da tenkte jeg ikke på å legge tomstokk ved siden av..! Men størrelsen minte nok litt i 3,7 cm calibret, lengden var ikke noe særlig heller...Ca rundt 20 cm!
"Tromsø's offisielle Tirpitzguide", ett dykk uten rust på hanskan e ikke et dykk....!
Hehe... Ikke vet jeg: Diameter kan passe med varmepatron, mens lengden kan passe for kardus. Dog tror jeg det er for liten ladning mtp. sistnevnte...DeepC wrote:Skjønner problemet! Har dessverre ikke hylsen for hånden...
Bildene er faktisk i fra 2004, og da tenkte jeg ikke på å legge tomstokk ved siden av..! Men størrelsen minte nok litt i 3,7 cm calibret, lengden var ikke noe særlig heller...Ca rundt 20 cm!
Ligger bilder av både varmepatron og karduspatron for G7a / kanon i torpedobatteritråden.
Joda, all skryt til torpedotråden 
Har studert den att og frem, og det var den som fikk meg til å tenke på hylsen....!
Hylsen er jo litt spessiel med den grønne bakkelitthetten på toppen!
Har studert den att og frem, og det var den som fikk meg til å tenke på hylsen....!Hylsen er jo litt spessiel med den grønne bakkelitthetten på toppen!
"Tromsø's offisielle Tirpitzguide", ett dykk uten rust på hanskan e ikke et dykk....!
Jo, og der er det en likhet til varmepatronene for G7a, ved at de hadde en "propp" av plast (tipper det var bakelitt under krigen) skrudd fast på samme måte (gjengene er mao også en likhet). Ikke umulig at den har vært benyttet til noe lignende, men altså ikke G7a.DeepC wrote:Hylsen er jo litt spessiel med den grønne bakkelitthetten på toppen!
Kruttstengene indikerer jo også en avbrenning av lengre varighet - dvs. stikkflamme - sammenlignet med pulver, og det stemmer igjen godt med en patron som skal sette i gang forbrenning i en dampmaskin el.
Hello,
first of all, my apologies for not writing in Norwegian, it's a language i still have not mastered.
But at least now i am able to contribute to this wonderful forum.
To me, this shellcase looks like a propelling charge for a german depth charge thrower, most likely the Wasserbombenwerfer C/35.
Shellcases for the W.B.W C/35 were made in brass and brass coated steel and until now i have only seen specimens made by the Polte factory in Magdeburg.
The shellcase in the picture was used for the type WBF depth charge, and had a max. shot distance of 40 meters as can be clearly seen on the cap.
Shellcase with plastic cap is rare, so congratulations.
For those of you interested in german depth charge pistols, have a look here: http://wk2ammo.com/showthread.php?t=2998
first of all, my apologies for not writing in Norwegian, it's a language i still have not mastered.
But at least now i am able to contribute to this wonderful forum.
To me, this shellcase looks like a propelling charge for a german depth charge thrower, most likely the Wasserbombenwerfer C/35.
Shellcases for the W.B.W C/35 were made in brass and brass coated steel and until now i have only seen specimens made by the Polte factory in Magdeburg.
The shellcase in the picture was used for the type WBF depth charge, and had a max. shot distance of 40 meters as can be clearly seen on the cap.
Shellcase with plastic cap is rare, so congratulations.
For those of you interested in german depth charge pistols, have a look here: http://wk2ammo.com/showthread.php?t=2998
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Best regards,
Zünder
Zünder
You're welcome. 
If you ever come across more plastic cups, then i would be very interested.
Plenty of material for trade available..(sorry, just had to say that)
Below different headstamps of WBW C/35 shellcases, both brass and steel.
Furthermore, have a look at the gun in the black&white picture, and then look at the one in this thread (Natter's post from 06 march 2011): http://www.kystfort.com/forum/viewtopic ... 7&start=15
Same gun if you ask me..
I'm under the impression that it was initially thought, that Deepc's shellcase was for surface firing german torpedoes, so i have included a picture of such a shellcase as well, dimensions 80x160R with a very distinctive rim at the mouth.
Torpedo shellcases were made in both brass and brass coated steel.
If you ever come across more plastic cups, then i would be very interested.
Plenty of material for trade available..(sorry, just had to say that)
Below different headstamps of WBW C/35 shellcases, both brass and steel.
Furthermore, have a look at the gun in the black&white picture, and then look at the one in this thread (Natter's post from 06 march 2011): http://www.kystfort.com/forum/viewtopic ... 7&start=15
Same gun if you ask me..
I'm under the impression that it was initially thought, that Deepc's shellcase was for surface firing german torpedoes, so i have included a picture of such a shellcase as well, dimensions 80x160R with a very distinctive rim at the mouth.
Torpedo shellcases were made in both brass and brass coated steel.
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Best regards,
Zünder
Zünder
Nice finish (are you using it for flowers or similar, as you've removed the blastingcap and pipe?).Zünder wrote:I'm under the impression that it was initially thought, that Deepc's shellcase was for surface firing german torpedoes, so i have included a picture of such a shellcase as well, dimensions 80x160R with a very distinctive rim at the mouth.
Torpedo shellcases were made in both brass and brass coated steel.
The brasscoated steel were presumably introduced later on in the war, due to shortage of brass...
Here's a picture of one shell I kept from my torpedobattery-service.
This one was taken from a batch of 600g charges that were obsolete and not in any records (we had a full case of these - all in original german WW2-state). The cubes of powder were taken out and burned. The blasting-cap was ignited by loading it into the torpedotube and fire it.
The primary firing-method for the tubes at the torpedobatteries was pressurized air, with powder (850g charge) as backup.
The 600g and 850g charges were similar but the 600g shell had a piece of cardboard filling up space as compensation for less powder.
@Natter: no i have not removed anything.
As far as i know, this one was found on the bottom of the Baltic sea.
And i would never ever use a shellcase for flowers.
So these shellcases were used as a back up only ?
Do you know how they were sealed, a piece of cork, or plastic cup just like the WBW C/35 case ?
I've never found any manuals for these, so any kind of information is highly appreciated.
As far as i know, this one was found on the bottom of the Baltic sea.
And i would never ever use a shellcase for flowers.
So these shellcases were used as a back up only ?
Do you know how they were sealed, a piece of cork, or plastic cup just like the WBW C/35 case ?
I've never found any manuals for these, so any kind of information is highly appreciated.
Best regards,
Zünder
Zünder